Commenting On Comments

Jump to Comments

OVER ON PHILIP WEISS’ BLOG Mondoweiss, commenter Glenn Condell left a good comment (actually, it’s a comment about a comment I think) on a post called “Dialoguin’ With Richard Witty” which I’m going to reproduce here because it makes some good points.

I read Weiss’ blog nearly every day, simply because he is some kind-of ‘rogue Jew’ that isn’t afraid to discuss the glaring issues regarding Jewish power/influence, Jewish politics, Jewish money, and so forth in America; he also writes a good bit about the Jewish/Israel lobby, the Jewish role in fomenting the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars (along with the potential Iran War), and Jewish dual-loyalty issues, all of which are highly taboo topics in the mainstream media. For such material to be discussed openly and honestly by Mr. Weiss speaks volumes about his personal courage. So, if you aren’t already familiar with Weiss’ blog I suggest that you start reading it.

Anyhow, here is Glenn Condell’s excellent comment on a possible scenario if undue Jewish power/influence isn’t eventually checked in America:

‘If the Jewish lobby continues to threaten American interests then it will eventually be crushed; conditions for this increase–if the US dollar becomes so weak that the US begins to crumble then there will arise American politicians who will blame the collapse of US power on Jews—these politicians will at first be unpopular but as the depression thickens they will win power’

I agree. There is warm complacent bubble of unconcern about this on the surface and I know Phil’s optimism precludes any serious entertainment of the thought of a general backlash against Jews, but the desperation of the guilty – look at Doug Feith’s frantic backpedalling away from what he championed a few years ago – illustrates a fear that is a long way from irrational.

The fear of Richard’s ‘posse’. (By the way Richard, a posse was formed was it not by concerned locals to roust up miscreants and criminals? Trouble is, they often ended up causing collateral damage to innocents too. A bit like Iraq, wouldn’t you say, or Gaza and the West Bank? How many of the overwhelming 10 to 1 ratio of Palestinian dead, especially the children, were guilty of anything at all? How many of the million plus dead Iraqis were ‘evil ones’ deserving of their fates? When the blowback arrives we can’t get too upset if it doesn’t prove terribly forensic in it’s targeting.)

The Lobby has persuaded, schmoozed, bought or intimidated it’s way into a position that appears impregnable, but if the social dislocation that comes with economic distress is severe enough, all bets are off. Those emerging politicians Charles mentions will encounter strong media and official opposition to begin with, but high decibel talking head hectoring will lose it’s power to compel conformity, relative to how bad things get.

If you read James Kunstler or John Robb regularly as I do, perhaps you are more prone to this sort of pessimism, but even George Soros (in the NY Rev) has recently made some uncharacteristically blunt assessments about the short to medium term, with no rosy horizons looming in the long.

I wrote a comment on Antony Loewenstein’s blog on 7 May 2005 on a thread on AIPAC pushing for war with Iran. This was only a few days after Larry Franklin surrendered to the FBI. I was marvelling at the Lobby’s gall, it’s nerve. Spying for Israel on Israel’s benefactor and guarantor. And I too pondered the possibility of political antisemitism arising as a result…

‘Isn’t there a danger that someone, ’some strange beast’, at some stage, perhaps when the economic shit really hits the fan and/or a whole platoon of grunts gets clipped by insurgents on primetime… isn’t it possible that a charismatic, all American, latter day Barry Goldwater type will emerge from backwoods America to reveal the ‘gorilla in the room’ in no uncertain terms, destroying the artfully arranged and strictly maintained ’story’ of US/Israeli relations…’

(not realising at that point Goldwater was himself Jewish)

‘A bit of Pat Buchanan, some David Duke, a dash of Joe McCarthy. An articulate demagogue who won’t cut his cloth to Zionist patterns as all US politicians presently do and who, by the simple but forgotten virtue of cussedness, refuses to toe the well-trodden line, starting a debate that, despite the heroically undemocratic efforts of the AIPACS and ADLs and JINSAs to silence it, spirals out into the public sphere as a spark, which in air parched dry by decades of untruth, explodes into an inferno of ‘fifth column’ and ‘dual loyalty’ ugliness, the scales falling from a hundred million eyes as their owners decide to reassert ‘Christian’ and ‘American’ virtues at the heart of their great nation, and so on til your ears hurt. This scenario becomes more likely if any Mossad involvement in 911, for which there are disturbing signs, can be proved.’

Well, the signs are for foreknowledge rather than involvement, but I think that distinction would be lost under the circumstances likely to obtain if Father Coughlin returns.

‘Such a person is of course likely to be cut off at the knees while still in short shorts… there will be film of him jacking off in a motel room or taking a backhander for a friendly vote. Even without that, he would be suffocated by a lack of oxygen, no news being good news in that information-poor society.

But the mob is a dangerous thing and it can be unpredictable when the going gets tough. A severe recession and no amount of media control will prevent people asking the relevant questions, at last. And getting some answers too, though not always the correct ones.

Which is where our ‘beast’ begins to slouch toward Washington – the problem being that babies will be thrown out with bathwater in a typical American orgy of fright, so that some of it’s worthiest citizens, people at the forefront of principled opposition, might be tarred by their ethno-religious association with the spies and fifth columnists…

I don’t think he will appear, and I hope to God he doesn’t, but there is a strong desire in me and many others for that blindfold that keeps America separate from the rest of us more than any other issue, to be lifted, ripped away, so that they can begin to make decisions (which affect all our futures) on facts rather than fantasies.’

The Gorilla in the Room. Ironically that was the name of another blog some might recall that started with a bang, apparently run by an anonymous Washington insider around the time the war began, and then continued to whimper on for a while after the insider had been encouraged to desist after his activities were discovered by his employer (or so the story went). It was anodyne and harmless thereafter.

There weren’t a lot of places to vent about Lobby related issues back then (and some had other fixations I didn’t share), Antony being one of the only venues with such a focus. Now of course we have Phil and quite a few other places, a mushrooming of talk and argument which is one of the best ways to avoid the scenarios described above. But it must ‘edge into the mainstream’ as Phil believes M & W’s ideas have done, to be an effective prophylactic.

Posted by: Glenn Condell | July 09, 2008 at 10:37 PM

The comments which I bolded were the most interesting. Which leads me to my next post here on this blog…“A Few Methods Which Jews Use To Silence Their Critics.”

Leave a Comment

Filed under American Jews, Israel, Jewish Anti-Arabism, Jewish Bias/Censorship, Jewish Domination/Control, Jewish Dual Loyalty, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Jewish Hubris, Jewish Journalists, Jewish Nation-Wrecking, Jewish Politics, Jewish Question, Jewish War Crimes, Jewish War-Profiteering, Jewish Warmongering, Jewish Wealth/Money/Power/Influence, Jewish/Israel Lobby, Palestinian Question, Zionism/Zionists

Tags: Comments, Honesty, Journalism, Scenarios